<div dir="ltr">BTW, more info from the IETF about the DMARC policy changes that broke nearly every mailing list in the world... :-)<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html">http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature">-- <div>Mario<br><br><a href="http://mario.silent-tower.org/" target="_blank">http://mario.silent-tower.org/</a></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Mario Butter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mario.butter@silent-tower.org" target="_blank">mario.butter@silent-tower.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">You might want to check your spam folder for the original posting. No, you shouldn't get a dup if someone hits "reply-all" - the mail system should see that you already got a copy and disable sending another one to your email. As I said, it's a change in response to the recent DMARC enforcement change that Yahoo, Aol and a few other providers did that broke many email lists. On my higher traffic lists, I had a number of people that were constantly being bounced off the list because of DMARC violations from Yahoo (mostly) and when I moved to the new server, I set it up this way to prevent that from happening. Basically, Yahoo, et al, saw that the "from" address had been changed (like most email lists do) and bounced that mail as possible spam. So, I don't change the from, instead I add a "cc" with the mail list posting address.<div><br></div><div>And the email was NOT sent to Leland only - it had a CC of the mail list, because he hit reply-all. Here is a copy of the headers:</div><div><br></div><div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">From: Stephen Wilcoxon <<a href="mailto:wilcoxon@gmail.com" target="_blank">wilcoxon@gmail.com</a>></font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">To: Leland Erickson <<a href="mailto:blackwidowplt@aol.com" target="_blank">blackwidowplt@aol.com</a>></font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">Cc: <a href="mailto:silent-death@mailman.silent-tower.org" target="_blank">silent-death@mailman.silent-tower.org</a></font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">Subject: Re: [Silent-Death] Ping!</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">X-BeenThere: <a href="mailto:silent-death@mailman.silent-tower.org" target="_blank">silent-death@mailman.silent-tower.org</a></font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">Precedence: list</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">List-Id: Players of the Silent Death game</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <<a href="http://silent-death.mailman.silent-tower.org" target="_blank">silent-death.mailman.silent-tower.org</a>></font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">List-Unsubscribe: <<a href="http://mailman.silent-tower.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/silent-death" target="_blank">http://mailman.silent-tower.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/silent-death</a>>, </font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <mailto:<a href="mailto:silent-death-request@mailman.silent-tower.org" target="_blank">silent-death-request@mailman.silent-tower.org</a>?subject=unsubscribe></font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">List-Archive: <<a href="http://mailman.silent-tower.org/pipermail/silent-death/" target="_blank">http://mailman.silent-tower.org/pipermail/silent-death/</a>></font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">List-Post: <mailto:<a href="mailto:silent-death@mailman.silent-tower.org" target="_blank">silent-death@mailman.silent-tower.org</a>></font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">List-Help: <mailto:<a href="mailto:silent-death-request@mailman.silent-tower.org" target="_blank">silent-death-request@mailman.silent-tower.org</a>?subject=help></font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace">List-Subscribe: <<a href="http://mailman.silent-tower.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/silent-death" target="_blank">http://mailman.silent-tower.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/silent-death</a>>, </font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> <mailto:<a href="mailto:silent-death-request@mailman.silent-tower.org" target="_blank">silent-death-request@mailman.silent-tower.org</a>?subject=subscribe></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div>-- <div>Mario<br><br><a href="http://mario.silent-tower.org/" target="_blank">http://mario.silent-tower.org/</a></div></div></div></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:09 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Grimmnar@aol.com" target="_blank">Grimmnar@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div><strong>Mario,</strong></div>
<div><strong></strong> </div>
<div><strong>OKies. </strong></div>
<div><strong>But why didn't i see BWP's post on the 16th? Makes me wonder if i
missed other posts or postings. </strong></div>
<div><strong></strong> </div>
<div><strong>And the way you have it set up, anyone that wants to reply to a
post of mine, when they hit the REPLY ALL button I will get a double
post???<br></strong><strong></strong></div>
<div><strong>Has it always been this way on this group? First I am knowing of it
and I wonder if others know as well. </strong></div>
<div><strong></strong> </div>
<div><strong>It is just not what I find on all the forums and mail groups I am
apart of. His response said no where that it was sent to the SD list, but sent
to Leland only and I got a copy. </strong></div>
<div><strong></strong> </div>
<div><strong>As far as I know this is the only list with these settings that I
am aware of. Just wanted to make sure all the bells and whistles were ok.
</strong></div>
<div><strong></strong> </div>
<div><strong>Grimm</strong></div><span>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div>In a message dated 4/20/2015 12:00:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
<a href="mailto:mario.butter@silent-tower.org" target="_blank">mario.butter@silent-tower.org</a> writes:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">The server doesn't respond to you with your own emails unless you
turn that option on (it defaults to off). The reply address munging that most
email lists do was broken by Yahoo, Aol, et al, when they turned on strict
DMARC enforcement, so it's been turned off on my lists to reduce the number of
bounces from your "helpful" email providers. If you do a "reply-all" when
responding, it works fine (the list does not change the "from" address, it
just adds a new "to" header, so "reply-all" sends to the list, and plain
"reply" sends to the email author privately).</div>
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<div>Mario</div></div></div></div></font></blockquote></div></span></font></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div>
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